BETA, BETA and more BETA

To all authors

You may not see me, but I am still around, so I would like to remind everyone that your submission MUST be beta'd.I would also like to remind you that if the submission is beta'd and there are several mistakes, we WILL reject the submission. Submission rules are in place for a reason and that is to make the submission and validation process runsmoothly; however, if people continue to submit unbeta'd or poorly beta'd submissions, it delays the process.

This is an ONGOING problem, and there have been several news articles regarding this matter, you are all mature, intelligent adults and I should not have to do this on a regular basis.

If you have any questions, please re-read the submission rules, which also include the consequences or you can contact any site admin.

I thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation in this matter.

--sirsevchick on 29/10/2011 - 10:32 am 18 Comments--


You, sirsevchick, are a brilliant admin who knows a great many things of true import. I agree with all your words whole heartedly. Love you bunches and throwing sparkles. xoxoxoKel

- DHLane on 29/10/2011 - 10:46 am

Sorry this is still a problem. I admit that some of my older stuff has more mistakes, but even back then I had betas. I want a beta for my own piece of mind. My beta told me that on my last chapter she literally took out one comma and changed one spelling to a 'British' spelling. I was so happy! Then, after I posted, I did my usual read-through (which is standard procedure for me, because I find that to be my last edit.)

Sure enough, I found one other mistake she and I both missed. I wrote the word 'understanding' for 'undestand'. When I discovered it, I fixed it. Mostly because I didn't want a glaring mistake for all times.

That doesn't mean that things can't still have mistakes. I found two mistakes recently in a BOOK that was published by a New York Times Best selling author. Mistakes can happen. We're humans. BUT...careless mistakes because people aren't following the rules isn't acceptable.

Thanks for all your hard work (to all the Mods and Adms!) I shall step down off my soupbox now...oops...soapbox. See. I needed a beta for that.


- AnneM on 29/10/2011 - 11:22 pm

HAHAHA!! PEACE OF MIND! NOT PIECE OF MIND! SEE!!!! BETAS! (That one really was a mistake!)


- AnneM on 29/10/2011 - 11:23 pm

*giggles at Patty*

- DHLane on 29/10/2011 - 11:49 pm

I like the idea of a soupbox...

at the moment Bunnyhops is helping me by rebetaing (is there such a word?) Child's eyes, sometimes she finds one or two very minor mistakes, sometimes nothing, then there will be one that everyone has missed abnd it glares out from the page. We have had the odd laugh over the difference between UK English and US is not just the spelling either....


She also catches errors in plot line, for which I am incredibly grateful....


Keep up the betaing, it  lets us read without wincing...There is  lovely story on FF which i can no longer tolerate because of all the errors

- jamies_lady on 30/10/2011 - 02:57 am

I need a beta for my news posts... :D

- MistressMalfoy on 30/10/2011 - 04:33 am

Kel only laughed at my entry because she's beta'd for me before and she recalled how often I would use one word for another...

- AnneM on 30/10/2011 - 08:46 am

It's weird how you can read and edit things a hundred times and then after you've posted you sometimes see an error glaring out which you just hadn't noticed before. I think it may be the different font or seeing it in a different format. Your eyes get so used to reading in whatever you've written it in that things slip by. That's why a beta is important. But also things do slip through sometimes, entirely without blame.

Maybe that's a way to do it - change the font and layout occasionally while you're editing and you'll spot things that weren't noticed before.

- laurielove on 30/10/2011 - 11:50 am

Font and layout changing definitely helps for me. I often spot things I missed then. However, even when doing that, I still miss things. It's how the mind works. It sees what's supposed to be there, not what actually is. I had three betas for my latest story, and we all missed I spelled concurred instead conquered at some point. I had a reader who was kind enough to point it out so I could fix it. Now that's a review that's useful. When reviewers say "u have errors", I just want to pull my hair out for more than one reason.

But yeah, the glaring errors are the most annoying to see back in your own writing. *coughs* Like a there instead of their. *shivers* I don't understand how these things creep in. I thought it was just me not being a native speaker, but I heard others complaining about that happening to them, too. 

However, I don't understand why people keep submitting unbeta-ed stories here. If you want to post something that's not beta-ed, you've got plenty of other options (FFnet/AFFnet). You don't need to bother the submission witches. 

Oh, I could use an edit function for the reviews and review replies you post here, too. *shivers at looking at some of her stupid mistakes in those, for all to see, until eternity* ;)

- dax on 30/10/2011 - 06:48 pm

I've been called the Submission Nazi (along with some other, less nice things), but what she's saying is so true. Sometimes, there are LOADS of stories to be validated, and the things that obviously aren't beta'd, or are beta'd by someone not qualified, slow down the process exponentially. We're here to catch mistakes, to make sure your story flows nicely, and to validate the over all chapter, NOT to beta for anyone. If that part isn't done, you'll get your chapter back until it is.


However, I'd like to give kudos to all of you who use betas, take the time to look over your work repeatedly, and WANT things to be perfect. I know my earlier works make me cringe (though I have no time to correct them in the forseeable future), and it's always important that authors do not make their readers cringe... cringe is bad!

- Lupinswolfie on 30/10/2011 - 08:56 pm

I read my stuff a minimum of five times before it goes to the beta.  Last time a 3500 word chapter came back with two errors.  Pays to practice your spelling and grammar, and as an added bonus, they come back quick so you can get them posted ASAP!

- nottonyharrison on 31/10/2011 - 01:41 am

Dax lol I cringe when I look back over my first stories and think wtf how did they even rank acceptable!?

- MistressMalfoy on 03/11/2011 - 08:49 am

Oooh, first stories. *shivers* Thanks MM for reminding me, I deliberately didn't mention THEM. I always think about editing my first stories to take out the horrible, HORRIBLE errors, but then, I suddenly have so much more important things to do as: lying around on the couch, scratching my head, petting my dogs, watching the telly, yawning, etc. So you understand that I never get around to it. Such a busy life. I'm tired already. XD

- dax on 05/11/2011 - 03:29 am

You know, when I read that, dax, I was lying on the couch, scratching my head and watching the telly out of the corner of my eye.  Something tells me you have many other sympathisers to this situation ;D

- nottonyharrison on 05/11/2011 - 05:21 am

Aww... I found a kindred spirit here. I would high-five you, nottonyharrison, but that would require me raising my arm and that's such an exhausting effort that I shall refrain and just imagine it. ;D

- dax on 06/11/2011 - 04:24 am

Hi fiving is overrated.  I am virtually keyboard fiving you right now.

- nottonyharrison on 08/11/2011 - 02:43 pm

I am searching for a beta, but can not seem to find one.

- Deatheatersriddle on 17/11/2011 - 04:55 pm

Deatheatersriddle - on the home page, go to the GE beta section and start there. You can ask one of the accreditated beta readers to beta the story for you. I personally can't do it right now, or I would volunteer, but I'm sure someone can do it!

- AnneM on 17/11/2011 - 11:40 pm